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#101617: "ELO rates of unrelated players may decrease when someone exits the game"
#101617: "ELO rates of unrelated players may decrease when someone exits the game"
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Подробно описание
• Моля поставете тук съобщението за грешка което виждате, ако има такова
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Моля обяснете, какво искахте да направите, какво направихте и какво се случи
• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• Моля копирайте/поставете текстът показан на аглийски, вместо на Вашия език. Ако имате скрийншот на този бъг (добре е да правите), можете да използвате Imgur.com за да качите и копирате линка тук.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Наличен ли е този текст в системата за превод? Ако да, бил ли е преведен за повече от 24 часа?
• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• Моля обяснете вашето придложение ясно и кратко така че да бъде възможно най-разбираемо.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• Какво е било показано на екрана, когато сте били блокирани (празен екран? Част от интерфейса на играта? Съобщение за грешка?)
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• Коя част от правилата не е била спазена от BGA адаптацията
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Нарушенията на правилата видими ли са при повторение на играта? Ако да, на кой ход се случват?
• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• Какъв бе игровият ход, който се опитахте да извършите?
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Какво се опитвате да направите, за да задействате тази игра?
• Какво се случи, когато се опитахте да направите това (съобщение за грешка, съобщение за статуса на играта, ...)?
• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• В кой момент от играта се появи проблема (каква е била съответната инструкция в играта)?
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Какво се случи, когато се опитахте да извършите действието в играта (съобщение за грешка, съобщение за статуса на играта, ...)?
• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• Моля опишете грешката при изобразяването Ако имате скрийншот на този бъг (добре е да правите), можете да използвате Imgur.com за да качите и копирате линка тук.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• Моля копирайте/поставете текстът показан на аглийски, вместо на Вашия език. Ако имате скрийншот на този бъг (добре е да правите), можете да използвате Imgur.com за да качите и копирате линка тук.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Наличен ли е този текст в системата за превод? Ако да, бил ли е преведен за повече от 24 часа?
• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
• Моля обяснете вашето придложение ясно и кратко така че да бъде възможно най-разбираемо.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=429152889
As in the game above, if there is a difference in ELO rates between players, the rate of an unrelated player will decrease when someone exits the game.
This is clearly unfair and should be corrected.
Due to this specification, players with higher rates will not want to match with players with lower rates.
It reduces the chances of players playing each other.• Какъв е вашия браузър?
Google Chrome v117
История на докладванията
окт 18 th 2023 4:54 • kaien032 • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
Nothing
дек 21 st 2023 17:04 • kaien032 • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
I checked a few replays and this ELO rate specification seems to be a bug that only occurs when someone exits at 100% game progress.
дек 30 th 2023 11:00 • WallBuilder • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
I had this problem in a game of Agricola. I was going to win, another player timed out, and another player made them quick. I lost ELO because I tied with the two players with lower ratings
дек 30 th 2023 11:01 • WallBuilder • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
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фев 26 th 2024 11:20 • WallBuilder • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
This happened again here - another player quit just before the finish of the game, and I lost 9 ELO, even though I was about to win!
Agricola n°469154699
Agricola n°469154699
мар 16 th 2024 11:13 • Freddy_Choppin • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
This looks like the same issue I had with a game of Wingspan: boardgamearena.com/table?table=487704894 yesterday.
A player timed out during his/her last move of the game, was kicked and even therefore first place was shared between the rest of the players including myself. Because other players had lower ELO, I ended up losing points when I otherwise would have won the game and gained ELO.
A player timed out during his/her last move of the game, was kicked and even therefore first place was shared between the rest of the players including myself. Because other players had lower ELO, I ended up losing points when I otherwise would have won the game and gained ELO.
апр 4 th 2024 17:59 • DanGamesPdx • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
I've had this happen several times in space base at 100% completion
апр 22 nd 2024 20:16 • Phoxtrot • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
Tangential to this, I have made a suggestion about making the framework more flexible so that specific games can implement specific solutions when someone quits the game.
See boardgamearena.com/bug?id=121841
(Link to discussion thread in the suggestion report)
See boardgamearena.com/bug?id=121841
(Link to discussion thread in the suggestion report)
май 5 th 2024 13:27 • KSpooky • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
This is really annoying, can you do something about that? During last month it happened 3 times in Terraforming Mars Arena. Loosing player haven't put final greenery and eventually got dropped. My win was considered as a draw and in effect I've lost ELO and Arena points, because enemies had much lower ranking. It is not suppose to work like that. It is simply unfair.
So why not simply skip quiter turns if the game is at 90%+ progression? Or replace it with some dummy AI? Make it to never lost ELO/Arena Ranking on player drop?
So why not simply skip quiter turns if the game is at 90%+ progression? Or replace it with some dummy AI? Make it to never lost ELO/Arena Ranking on player drop?
май 26 th 2024 22:01 • Shivaware • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
This was a long-standing issue, and a few years ago, they added a lower cap so that none of the remaining players could actually lose Elo, but the remaining player with the lowest Elo would still gain Elo from everyone else. Unfortunately, when they added the power-levelling changes, the lower cap was removed and it is now possible for remaining players to lose Elo again.
The ideal solution would be to just consider it as everyone winning separate 2-player games against the person who left.
Someone suggested that already here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=109466
The ideal solution would be to just consider it as everyone winning separate 2-player games against the person who left.
Someone suggested that already here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=109466
юли 1 st 2024 10:13 • Shivaware • Това предложение все още не е анализирано от разработчиците:
Hmm, I wonder if this has been recently addressed.
In this game:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=528318388
I can now see a message in the "Details of ELO calculation" that says "You cannot lose ELO when a player quits the game".
If it's fixed for all games, that is a welcome change!
In this game:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=528318388
I can now see a message in the "Details of ELO calculation" that says "You cannot lose ELO when a player quits the game".
If it's fixed for all games, that is a welcome change!
сеп 3 rd 2024 15:02 • BROT42 • Това предложение бе изпълнено:
hello :)
thanks for reporting the issue, we noticed there was indeed a bug where if the game was quit at 100% progression (which is unexpected but still possible, although it depends on each specific game implementation, according to how it has been developed), players could lose ELO when the rating update calculation was resulting in a negative delta (for ex when a strong player was tie with a weak player, as a result of game neuteralization). this delta would normally be set min to 0, but on 100% it wasn't happening.
the issue has now been fixed as of 28th aug 2024 (see changelog boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=188266#p188266).
sorry for the troubles and thank you for your patience!
thanks for reporting the issue, we noticed there was indeed a bug where if the game was quit at 100% progression (which is unexpected but still possible, although it depends on each specific game implementation, according to how it has been developed), players could lose ELO when the rating update calculation was resulting in a negative delta (for ex when a strong player was tie with a weak player, as a result of game neuteralization). this delta would normally be set min to 0, but on 100% it wasn't happening.
the issue has now been fixed as of 28th aug 2024 (see changelog boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=188266#p188266).
sorry for the troubles and thank you for your patience!
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