#161133: "Didn't agree about dead stones, resumed play, then game didn't count dead stones."
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Подробно описание
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• Моля поставете тук съобщението за грешка което виждате, ако има такова
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• Моля обяснете, какво искахте да направите, какво направихте и какво се случи
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• Моля копирайте/поставете текстът показан на аглийски, вместо на Вашия език. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Наличен ли е този текст в системата за превод? Ако да, бил ли е преведен за повече от 24 часа?
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• Моля обяснете вашето придложение ясно и кратко така че да бъде възможно най-разбираемо.
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• Какво е било показано на екрана, когато сте били блокирани (празен екран? Част от интерфейса на играта? Съобщение за грешка?)
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• Коя част от правилата не е била спазена от BGA адаптацията
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• Нарушенията на правилата видими ли са при повторение на играта? Ако да, на кой ход се случват?
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• Какъв бе игровият ход, който се опитахте да извършите?
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• Какво се опитвате да направите, за да задействате тази игра?
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. -
• Какво се случи, когато се опитахте да направите това (съобщение за грешка, съобщение за статуса на играта, ...)?
No errors, the game simply ended without allowing use to mark the dead stones. The game didn't identify the dead stones correctly, and didn't even ask if we agreed with the counting result. As several stones were not marked as dead, I lost the stones and the territory they were in.
In my recent table, #642822106, my opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?", which almost cost me the game. This violates the rules of the game. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• В кой момент от играта се появи проблема (каква е била съответната инструкция в играта)?
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. -
• Какво се случи, когато се опитахте да извършите действието в играта (съобщение за грешка, съобщение за статуса на играта, ...)?
My opponent and I didn't agree about the marking of dead stones, so we resumed play. My opponent selected "No" to the question, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?" He was losing, and by selecting "no", he almost won the game, as the game didn't mark the dead stones, and didn't give my the resulting 36 points I should have received.
I only won because I was far enough ahead in points. However, Go is usually so close in score that every point makes a huge difference. This prevents people from playing by the rules. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• Моля опишете грешката при изобразяването If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• Моля копирайте/поставете текстът показан на аглийски, вместо на Вашия език. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Наличен ли е този текст в системата за превод? Ако да, бил ли е преведен за повече от 24 часа?
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
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• Моля обяснете вашето придложение ясно и кратко така че да бъде възможно най-разбираемо.
Table #642822106
Have the game count the dead stones to give the proper score to both players. • Какъв е вашия браузър?
Firefox v133.0.3
История на докладванията
imgur.com/a/olkcuJm
In bug ID #14642, this problem is marked as fixed, but it actually doesn't fix anything. Rather, it only allows for cheating to continue happening.
This is still happening. Because of my first experience with this, I managed to save my game in this way:
My opponent & I passed. My opponent refused to mark the dead stones. When the question came, "Do you want to have a stage of designate dead stones after next series of passes?", I naturally answered, "yes". I kept playing and killed enough groups to make the game clearly won, and when we both passed, there was no re-counting of dead stones.
Sure enough, my opponent had selected "no", as I suspected he would.
This clearly promotes cheating. The proposed solutions are as follows, going from best to worst:
1) An algorithm that automatically designates dead stones.
2) NO QUESTION about having another stage for designating stones. Since there was already one stage, but the players COULDN'T AGREE, that means that there AUTOMATICALLY needs to be another round of dead stone designation. This should just happen every time.
3) If the question remains like it does now, it should be that if EITHER or BOTH of the players answers "yes", then there should be a stone counting stage.
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- F5 реши ли проблема?
- Проблемът няколко пъти ли се е появил? Или всеки път? Или абсолютно случайно?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
